Curse

Franco · Oct 04, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

man you dont understand, we need to know if this update is going to happen or not, I already sold a perfect chaos and a eternal, imagine how wed feel if all those items turned to scrap after.

Its like the HA changes, my friend today said he was depressed and might be quitting GW because of making 6vs6 in HA,his guild is disbanding and everyone quitting.

I think Anet is just screwing with old players...

sixdartbart · Oct 04, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by milias

I agree with this. Why do I agree with this? Because I consider this a bug or rather an exploit, which is unfair to most players. People who have these kinds of weapons should have known way beforehand that these wouldn't last forever, like the 20/20 Rockmolder.

While I was sad about what they did to my precious rockmolders I always knew it would probably happen and at least I only had about 15 of them left

My question is where is the consitancy?
We are all aware of how they handled the issue with the HoD swords which were alot less common than the 20/20 Rockmolders but way more common than they HoD axe/ FFS or the 15% unconditional weapons but yet have done nothing about the vary rare items that do give players an edge over other players.

If any of the items that have been changed/reincorporated why wouldn't all of them be dealt with in the same fashion???

sumrtym · Oct 04, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by sixdartbart

Before you guys get yourselves too much farther out on a limb with any of your points you should read the chat log from Gaile yesterday http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10054375
My impression from this is that they had an idea and didn't think through all of the effects it may have in other aspects of the game but are now "discussing the finer points of it" most likely thanks to discussions like this one so keep in mind that if you have any intention of being listened too and taken seriously it is much more likely to happen when you dont sound like an angry self serving child

My impression of this is Gaile couldn't comment because once again she is out of the loop just like with rubies and sapphires before Factions. ANET knows what it's going to do, Gaile just hasn't been filtered down to yet. These comments aren't gonna change their opinon one way or the other.

Evls Pwn · Oct 05, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Oh of course, you sit here and speculate about anet while there is a member of anet releasing info. Don't assume you know what you don't know.

ChildeOfMalkav · Oct 05, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Akhilleus

as for this line of idiotic thought;
i dont farm, never have, never will...its booring. i was a trader, and enjoyed doing it.
seccondly, if by "playing the game" you mean having 17 lvl 20 characters, 9 of which are pvp ready and have beaten BOTH chapters, with all the important elite unlocks, and at least 1 lvl 20 of every single character class in the game, pver 2,500 hours of pve/pvp play logged (the remainder of my time trading/talking) then yeah...i suppose you could say i "play the game."

Well Whoop Dee Doo for you then! It still doesnt change the fact that your assumption that inscriptions were "likely brought on by listening to the mass of people who dont know what they're doing" is just plain ridiculous.

First you assume that ANET only made this change because they were pressured into it and you assume that this is a bad idea. AND you assume that just because the masses approve of it that it has to be bad.

That's a lot of assumptions buddy. And oh yeah, keep calling me idiotic. I like knowing that you're pissed because you cant make an argument without name calling.

Evls Pwn · Oct 05, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

The human race as a whole is idiotic, therefore the masses are idiotic. Some of the most retarded people I've "seen"have been on Gw. As for anet being pressured into it? Nah. I think they thought "hey what a cool idea!" and several months later thought "oh shit, this might screw the game over".

sumrtym · Oct 05, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Evls Pwn

Oh of course, you sit here and speculate about anet while there is a member of anet releasing info. Don't assume you know what you don't know.

Oh, and I imagined Gaile's infamous "be sure and hang onto rubies and sapphires, they'll be used in Factions".

BTW, talk about getting things wrong. Read what she wrote. It's the exact OPPOSITE of releasing info.

Evls Pwn · Oct 05, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

I've been at several of her chat sessions ty very much. You sit here and speculate as to the hierarchy at anet but you really don't have a clue.

ChildeOfMalkav · Oct 05, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by Evls Pwn

The human race as a whole is idiotic, therefore the masses are idiotic. Some of the most retarded people I've "seen"have been on Gw. As for anet being pressured into it? Nah. I think they thought "hey what a cool idea!" and several months later thought "oh shit, this might screw the game over".

Hey I cant argue with that. But saying that just because the masses are idiots and happens to think an idea is a good one, so therefore the idea CANT be a good idea is well....idiotic. You yourself have to judge the idea itself...not by what others think of it.

Evls Pwn · Oct 05, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Oh, I'm not saying I'm judging the idea on what people's reactions are. That would be as you said....idiotic ^_^

Hockster · Oct 05, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40

This will completely screw the weapon market. Which way, I'm not sure. Weapons could either drop to record lows, or everything will go up. That 13% while hexed dwarven axe isn't worth 100K anymore, it's with 100 ecto now that you can change it to a 15^50 instead.

But knowing ANerf, the salvage options will probably only apply to Nightfall items, ("upgraded" storage anyone?), completely screwing 98% of the game population in the ass without even giving a reach around.

manitoba1073 · Oct 05, 2006, 03:52 AM // 03:52

ok heres a better idea, since everyone aggrees GW is about skills. lets just have anet remove all mods from all items. best solution yet. put the skill back in the game and remove the so called reliance on mods. mods are to compliment ur skill should never be the other way around. if your build depends on a damn +1 modifier or what ever mod. then u really need to rethink your builds. thats my new solution to this problem. dont like it to bad.

ofcourse noone will like it so i know its the right decision to be made REMOVE ALL MODS from items in game solves all problems dont you think

Mordakai · Oct 05, 2006, 04:04 AM // 04:04

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Originally Posted by Hockster

This will completely screw the weapon market. Which way, I'm not sure. Weapons could either drop to record lows, or everything will go up.

Wow... I don't even know what to say!

Basically your saying you don't know what will happen, but no matter what happens, it will "screw the weapon market." Well, pardon me for asking, but if you don't know what will happen, how do you know it will screw up anything?

(and NO ONE knows what will happen, we're all speculating here).

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Originally Posted by Hockster

But knowing ANerf, the salvage options will probably only apply to Nightfall items, ("upgraded" storage anyone?), completely screwing 98% of the game population in the ass without even giving a reach around.

Now, here's an interesting point I actually thought about...

how would that even work? I mean, I assume Inscriptions will either come from salvage kits, or get their own Kit. Either way, there's no real way I can think of to seal off such a change from 2/3 of the current game.

I mean, even if they only allow Inscriptions to salvage in Nightfall, people will still sell inscriptions across Chapters, thus "screwing with" the whole economy. (your words, not mine).

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

ok heres a better idea, since everyone aggrees GW is about skills. lets just have anet remove all mods from all items. best solution yet. put the skill back in the game and remove the so called reliance on mods. mods are to compliment ur skill should never be the other way around. if your build depends on a damn +1 modifier or what ever mod. then u really need to rethink your builds. thats my new solution to this problem. dont like it to bad.

ofcourse noone will like it so i know its the right decision to be made REMOVE ALL MODS from items in game solves all problems dont you think

Sarcasm for the loss?

Seriously, though, you're on the right track. Anet needs to remove all imperfect mods. They're worthless and a waste of time, especially if these Inscriptions work the way we think they will.

manitoba1073 · Oct 05, 2006, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Sarcasm for the loss?

Seriously, though, you're on the right track. Anet needs to remove all imperfect mods. They're worthless and a waste of time, especially if these Inscriptions work the way we think they will.

no sarcasm intended with what i said. all mods should be removed from the game PERIOD. if you are one of those that feels your build depends on a mod and cant be used without then truelly im sorry for you. it would settle everything.
remember ITS GUILD WARS not MOD WARS games supposed to rely on skills used not mods used. felt i had to say that for all those that try to use it as ITS GUILD WARS NOT FARM WARS OR SELL WARS

BoredJoe · Oct 05, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

no sarcasm intended with what i said. all mods should be removed from the game PERIOD. if you are one of those that feels your build depends on a mod and cant be used without then truelly im sorry for you. it would settle everything.
remember ITS GUILD WARS not MOD WARS games supposed to rely on skills used not mods used. felt i had to say that for all those that try to use it as ITS GUILD WARS NOT FARM WARS OR SELL WARS

While they're at it why not remove all the different hairstyles, faces and skins from the game after all its Guild Wars not Fashion Wars. Removing the different environments and amount of colour would be a step in the right direction too.

manitoba1073 · Oct 05, 2006, 05:52 AM // 05:52

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Originally Posted by BoredJoe

While they're at it why not remove all the different hairstyles, faces and skins from the game after all its Guild Wars not Fashion Wars. Removing the different environments and amount of colour would be a step in the right direction too.

exactly now where talking, dont want the casual players to feel any different from any elite player now do we

arcanemacabre · Oct 05, 2006, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Hey, luckily nothing is being removed, so all your points are invalid. This is about a feature that is being *added* so as to make more weapon mod combinations and overall weapon choices. This is all about options.

Options make an excellent addition to determine skill levels of players. Obviously, I wouldn't be nearly as effective with a vanilla wand compared to someone with +5 energy and 20% recharge, no matter skill levels. Having the option to go with either, or even numerous other combinations of effects, can broaden my strategies, thus allow for a greater difference in skill levels.

Then again, what do I know?

=HT=Ingram · Oct 05, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

About the disbanding Guilds and People leaving... considering a new chapter is about to release and its hard to keep even Prophecies on the shelf in my store, well... I'm not worried. They are opening up so many new markets a few hundred thousand leaving is going to be their loss, not ours... I can sit back and be the grand generation if I have to. lol

The really cool thing about GW is that if they do leave and come back in say a year. guess what? Everything will be there waiting for them again... unlike oh so many other MMOs that will remain nameless... so whatever blows your skirt up. If you want to shelve your game over a silly evolution of the game, well that's your prerogative.

I intend to play it for as long as possible as often as possible, cause I enjoy playing the game. not farming it or selling crap that is worthless anyway... I'm not in it for a job, I have a job and a life. I'm in it to escape that garbage. I think that is the case for the majority of GW residents. And With the influx of new people and new markets every few months, well... Everything is looking fine to me...

buh bye now...

Ingram of Haz

Roshi_ikkyu · Oct 05, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

I like seeing the posts about "Boo hoo, I'm quiting; they nerfed (Insert latest change here). Good bye guild wars"

1 less idiot in the game! Every time a Emo quits a black dye drops. :P

Personally I'm waiting to be proven right inscriptions are not inherent mods!

manitoba1073 · Oct 05, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

ive never said nothing about quiting, and i wasnt whinning i was warning as it will have no effect on me whats so ever. however it will have alot of effect on alot of my friends that do play.